How do you attach steps to the exterior of a slab on grade?


How do you attach steps to slab on grade insulation?

Mary Alm Dec. 2, 2021Last updated: Dec. 2, 2021

Deep thanks to you for your videos on insulating thickened edge slabs, they've helped my designer and me immensely in at least starting to overcome a change to a monolithic slab, when soil bearing test proved that change was necessary.  We have a couple questions left, that I'm hoping to get help with.  The house will be a variation of straw-bale, with the bales inside the 2x4 framing, and either a variation of light-straw-clay or blown mineral wool infill insulation, and plastered inside and out.  We could perhaps use 2x6's with the extra 2' proud of the sill, but with wanting to insulate the external aspect of the slab very well (will have radiant floor heat), and use mineral wool boards to do so (this will be a non-toxic house), that leaves somewhere in the vacinity of 8" of foundation insulation assembly proud of the wall plane.  The problems my designer brought up are:

1) the difficulties in either securing flashing over the top and partially down the side of the insulation/cementboard assembly, especially at the corners, without using toxic glues (and actually, also in bending the flashing neatly); or the difficulty in trusting the longevity with parging the connection of a strip of cementboard connecting the bottom of the wall to the cementboard on the.exterior of the foundation insulation.

2) how to attach steps over the ca. 8" of insulation assembly, at the right height (perhaps especially for the one wheel chair accessible entry), without compromising the insulation greatly at the attachment point.

Let me know if I left out any needed information.  Thanks very much for offering this oportunty to ask this kind of question.

Responses (3)

Mary Alm Dec. 2, 2021, 5:48 p.m.

Thank you Emmanuel.  You did actually get much of my intended communication right.  The 'ca.' simply means approximately, not in building parlance, sorry to throw that in there.  I'm noticing you are in Canada, I'm in NY state, US.  I suspect these products have a limited distribution, but probably more importantly, I'm building the house to be nontoxic, as I mentioned, because I was chemically injured with one of the results being severe chemical sensitivities.  This usually means I can't use kits, as I have to very much control all the 'ingredients'.  The Thermasil looks like an interesting product, I didn't see what it was made of in the link, and would be intersted to know.  And you are right, that thermal bridging was one of the problems we were trying to conquer.

Emmanuel Cosgrove
Emmanuel Cosgrove Dec. 2, 2021, 6:45 p.m.

That Thermasill piece is made of EPS foam (which would not be in your home) and the solid portion is a mix of wood fiber and cement, so there is no health risk. 

 Legalett products are available all across North America if they are of interest, but to clear it up a bit - there is no risk to interal air quality with Legalett slabs or really any other. The legalett slab kit forms the perimiter only, and then you pour concrete inside it. So the foam edge - which amounts to being the 'form' will be underneathing your exterior wall, none of it (or any insulation) would be inside the house and put you at any risk of material off-gassing. 

However you build it, a polished concrete floor can be about as healthy a floor as you will find. 'Set' concrete is benign and poses no health risk as there is nothing to off-gas into your home, the only risk would be what finish you put on it. I would strongly advise against using an epoxy sealer, so if concrete will be your final finish I would suggest a silicate densifier for polished concrete floors, which is essentially a liquid glass that penetrates the top finish. we do have a pretty extensive collection of pages about how to protect indoor air quality, so have a look and feel free to ask other questions. Chemical sensitivities are quite a burden to live with and its not always easy to find safe products.